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- LCC Meeting : 15th February 2010
- DECC: Wam Homes, Greener Homes Strategy
- Scot Gov: Review of building stds - Sec 6 energy
- Committee on CC : Updated report o Scottish Exec..
- WWF: New Report: Climate impact of food much higher than previously thought
- Peak Oil - Businesses wake up - shortages by 2015 possible
- Community Woodlands Assoc
- Uk Gov: FIT's announced
- Linlithgow Development Trust
- NEF: Growth Isn't Possible
- Scot Gov: Consulation on the Energy Efficiency Action Plan 4 Scotland
- LCC Meeting : 11th January 2010
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One small comment on the heating Dorte. it is most definitely not right to leave the heating on all the time but on low. Boilers these days are most efficient when they are worked hard and constantly. Not tripping in and out to trickle heat a space you are not in.
If you have a ground source heat pump or underfloor heating then that's a different matter as the primary objective is constant low grade heat into a large thermal mass. Cold poorly insulated homes with radiators heated by a gas boiler should be run through a timer where the heating is only on when you need it, with perhaps a little pre-heat time before you get up or arrive back from work, but no more.
Some boilers have frost thermostats which sense if the temp gets too cold and boost the heating and I'd recommend that to avoid burst pipes, but no. Don't leave it on all the time.
As for the chocolate. At least that's better than the flowers which consume vast amounts of water and heat to force grow, many of them are imported from Holland or Africa.
Stick to fairtrade if you are un-sure, and make sure you share them with friends :-)
On the Veg box, transport is a small percentage of the CO2 emissions on food, at least from field to shelf. Some of the largest CO2 impacts from food transport are actually you driving the 1 or 2 miles to the shop to collect them. Lorries delivering large volumes of food are reasonably efficient but neither are as good as LOCAL. ie right from your back garden or local farmer if you can convince them to grow for you, there's also the water issue, that if you are picking lots of fruit and veg from a country that has scarce water resources then you'll be creating a problem there too. So Aim Local, Aim Organic to reduce the Fertilizer impacts on the soil and it releasing the Nitrates back into the atmosphere, and go for seasonal as a priority to encourage it to be local.
Interesting Dilemmas.
Anyone else care to comment or dis-agree ? Clearly there's a lot of tough choices to be made, but at least you are making them and learning as part of the process. Far better than to purchase blind without a care on the environment or labour issues in 3rd world countries, or pollution etc.
Those following this might also like to visit : www.linlithgrow.org.uk
and in particular to read the info leaflets we produced last year.
See :
http://food.linlithgowclimatechallenge.org.uk/?page_id=45
Potatoes, Dorte. Just grow them in a black bag or pile of tyres and stack them up as the plants grow. Or. if you are removing grass, then spuds are an excellent first crop to help take the effort out of working the soil. Let the plants do some of the effort.
Get your spuds from the local suppliers/garden centres and have them chitting ready to go out. Remember there's different spuds for different seasons. Early, 2nd Early, main etc.
Start looking for seeds now, and if you have a greenhouse you could be starting some now.
Dorte that made me laugh and sorry for that weak moment.
I guess all the power companies are struggling to find ways to help us and one had their fingers rapped for sending out light bulbs the other month just to meet target deadlines
one big issue is that this is cheap advertising
this company in this case are getting more from brand recognition than co2 savings so we should be wary of schools taking the easy option when there's plenty of free teachers packs that do the same thing with no marketing element.
well done for helping the kids to plot energy consumption as that helps them connect and the staff too. I do this for low port Eco committee too.
Test Comment.
See here.
http://www.westlothian.gov.uk/media/downloaddoc/1799465/lcp/2020_Engagement
Hmm... Not a hind of sustainable planning anywhere.
Good reply Steve. I too live in an 1920's house (shiver) and it's built with lime mortar and brick ties. On the plus side, the installers EAGA said that they would NOT install cavity insulation in my home, because of these issues and they were aware of certain conditions where it's better to go for internal or external cladding. Clearly, if you read the websites for the brands of insulation installed, there are clear guidelines on how to install and what conditions are ok for product warranty.
I'm not sure there will ever be a right answer for this, and no doubt there will be issues in future, but I'm not sure we have time or CO2 capacity in the atmosphere to have a debate. A reversible solution is best. One that can be un-done if we find a problem, unlike the old spray foam they used to use. You are right that the gov needs to monitor this and to make sure that the problems are resolved.
One for continued debate. Certainly the folks that have had this done in the town are very impressed with the results, but equally does it make them turn down the thermostat or just enjoy a warmer house ?!!.. Now that's the real issue. Perhaps thermostats & boilers need to be locked with 'maximum' values like a rev limiter in a lorry....
Good link - thanks. Keep 'em flowing - we need lots more like this.
Here's some good documents on the EST website.
http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/business/Business/Resources/Publicat...
If you search for Insulation on the Building Professionals section, you get lots of documents and several all make it clear that inspection should follow BS 8208 standards and that areas prone to wind-driven rain must be reviewed, as too the condition of the cavity etc. However, despite what they say, I doubt that all installers are properly trained though to these standards which might be a bigger issue.
If in doubt, get a full survey of the property first would be my recommendation.
I live in a 1930's brick built bungalow, close to the coast where we recieve a fair amount of wind driven rain and was recently advised by an installer that I could have CWI. Concerned about the after effects of filling the cavity I have found this on the internet.
http://www.askjeff.co.uk/cavity.html
The survey, which was provided by my power company, did not look at the type of mortar or the type of metal wall ties in the wall. I suspect they would be using mineral wool for the insulation which according to the above site is unsuitable in my location.
Whilst the survey was provided via my power company it is part of the wider government scheme and I am concerned that people are being given bad advice.
If anyone has any thoughts on this I would be interested to hear them as it is difficult to find unbiased information.
Last week's climate science conference in Copenhagen concluded with a declaration saying that the most serious warnings on climate change were coming true, and calling for immediate "action". But, argues Mike Hulme in the Green Room, it is not clear what action was being called for, nor precisely who was calling for it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7946476.stm
Good points..
You can also alter the finances by making your own turbine. Thus lowering the cost
to make/build, and ignore the grid connection. Just go off-grid and be free of power
companies. [Dream on].
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2008/may/19/wind.powered.com...
Right now, our renewables sub group think that there's more chance for a hydro scheme like the one at http://www.h2ope.org.uk/ - For several reasons.
1. Consistency of power from rivers compared to wind.
2. Lower chance that the NIMBY's will object to big thing on a hill !..
3. Cheaper and simpler to install.
Of course this is all just a theory at this stage. We also would like to consider heating community buildings around the loch using a water source heat pump. but again, the issues with impacting loch pond-life would need considered.
There's also CHP from waste etc.. another idea to start building small local CHP's near homes. But that will struggle with local objections / planning / etc...
Our aim is to employ consultants through SCHRI funding, to do studies / analysis on several projects for the town, then to present all of these to the public to get their thoughts. We need local support before starting such a big project.
One area of potential with the hydro plant, is to link in with the Battle of Linlithgow Bridge pathway plans, and to make bigger loop with canal/falkirk wheel etc, and then we have a loop of interest to cycle and walk around. People could visit the hydro plant and learn of it's benefits. Challenges are : 2x Councils, Historic issues, and local grid feeds and also more importantly, local buildings to power, as the grant system is screwed up and you get different grant rates for community projects vs domestic ones.
Wind, I agree the local hills will be prefect for some turbines, but we need to engage the land owners. I know some of them, so will open discussions. With WLC's 2020 vision planning for 20% increases in population, we need to pressure the council in it's next planning docs to provide space for wind and other renewables.
Dr Maitland Mackie (Mr ice-cream) has a good vision for farmers and land-owners to cash in for wind power, and why not...... See below.
http://www.energyhelpline.com/news/article.aspx?aaid=18781369&y=2008&m=9...
Watch this space.
Cheers, interesting stuff.
The key to household/community renewables is, as mentioned in the link, a decent feed in tariff - that way you can concentrate on overall energy generation (kWh) rather than instantaneous power (kW), selling to the grid when you generate a surplus and buying back when you are in deficit.
Even the useless micro-turbines re-enter the equation when a feed-in tariff is implemented. Our household uses about 7 units (kWh) of electricity per day, which is an average of 300W. A small 1kW turbine working at a capacity factor of 0.3 (a likely value for a reasonably well placed turbine) will generate, over the year, this average 300W - selling electricity to the grid while you sleep or only have a few lightbulbs to power, and buying it back when you boil a kettle or run the washing machine. In an urban setting you might need a 2kW turbine to achieve this average 300W, or accept that you will still have to buy some of your electricity from the grid - but it does begin to look like an economical option again.
Of course, I can't get away from the feeling that the Riccarton and Bathgate hills, or the ridge between Linlithgow and Bo'ness appear to offer pretty good positions for larger, more efficient wind farms; and growing up in Leith and cycling along the East Lothian coast has convinced me that the Forth foreshore is also ideal. If only there were more IMBYs in the world... Any chance we can convince the council to go for a West Lothian Community Wind Farm?...
Hi John.
I tend to agree with you. Getting the public/MSPs/businesses to do an 80% reduction is tough enough. If we start pushing for 120% ie carbon sequestration of some kind, then we are well outside a zone of practicalities. It might be that the CCB gets passed at 80% and then when IPCC start reporting on worse fears for Methane release, slowing of sea carbon capture etc, then globally everyone will need to raise the bar. Reality will step in, mother nature will remind us that she is suffering.
Hopefully then the 'difficult and uncomfortable' debate about global population reduction will start to appear. The simplest action we can take to lower the population of the globe lower than 6.6 billion or whatever it is today. Projections for population for 2050 are over 9 billion people. That simply blows away any hope of compensating by inventing lower carbon technologies and carbon capture in my personal opinion. If oceans saturate in carbon, deforestation continues, and people start migrating to remaining cool parts of the globe where the sea isn't round their ankles every day, then I think that any efforts today will be pointless. See :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates
Try plotting CO2 increases along with population. You'll clearly see that both rise very dramatically in the last few hundred years. Lowering one, will help lower the other.
That's my personal opinion and not that of LCC as a whole.
Alan
Further reading.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7865332.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jan/29/politics.greenpolitics
http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/eco/popn1.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/jan/06/climatechange.climatec...
Hello,
I don't mean to be controversial, and was unable to make the meeting so may have missed an explanation, but was any detail given on the proposal above to press MSPs for
"the needs to move towards 120% as an appropriate target rather than the 80% by 2050 as at present."
According to the latest full figures (1) Scotland's 1990 baseline emissions were 68 Mt CO2e. A 120% reduction from this is -13.6 Mt CO2e, i.e. a net sink of 13.6 million tonnes of CO2e per year.
In 1990 Scotland's gross emissions from Energy, Industrial Processes, Agriculture, and Waste were 71.5 Mt, and by 2006 this had reduced to 63.5 Mt.
These emissions were offset by a total sink in the Land Use, Land Use Change and Forestry (LULUCF) sector of 2.5 Mt CO2e in 1990, increasing to 4.5 Mt CO2e in 2006.
Net emissions of -13.6 MtCO2e in 2050 would suggest at the very least a total decarbonisation of all parts of the economy, on top of which the overall LULUCF would have to grow to 13.6 Mt, or around three times the size it is just now. In real terms, a complete decarbonisation of the economy seems unlikely, or perhaps impossible, to achieve, which would suggest that the LULUCF sink would need to be even larger. The overall sink from the LULUCF is mostly due to forest growth, but this is offset by significant ongoing emissions from soils that have been turned into cropland over several decades.
The main problem with increasing the LULUCF sink is due to the way that forests develop. After a period of about 100 years they become, effectively, carbon neutral rather than carbon sinks. I.e. the carbon sequestration due to growth of new wood is balanced out by the carbon losses from the decay of old wood. Scotland's LULUCF carbon sink has grown in the last few decades as a reflection of the surge in forestry planting during the 20th Century, but in recent years this has levelled off. Even the most ambitious forestry expansion plans will only results in the overall LULUCF sink maintaining more or less its current value over the coming decades, let alone increasing in size several times over. More moderate projections of activity show the size of the sink declining. It may be possible to reduce the emission source due to cropland, but this is a very long term emission over which we have little control, and I have not seen it suggested that this can be significantly reduced in the forseeable future (2).
In short, LULUCF activities are simply unable to increase the size of Scotland's carbon sinks by the amounts required for a 120% target. In fact, the projected decline in the size of the LULUCF sink means that the sector may become a liability to Scottish emissions by the middle of this century: a declining sink (over which we only have so much control) is effectively the same is a growing source when the net effect is taken into account.
The only other obvious options I can see for ending up with a net carbon-negative Scotland are:
Some form of carbon capture and storage into our empty oilfields - science fiction at present, or
Massive purchase of international offset credits. But by 2050, with global targets for all nations, there will be no market for international offsets as each and every country will need all emission reductions or removals on their soil to be counted in their own inventories.
The final issue is that of the interaction of the Scottish with the UK target. Even if it were technically possible for us to reduce our emissions by 120%, for as long as the UK is going for an 80% reduction all we would be doing is allowing the rest of the UK to make a reduced effort to achieve the overall goal. That would be neither sensible nor equitable.
I am all for setting ambitious targets, and for engaging with politicians to ensure that they do everything in their power to make the most effective legislation possible - but I also think that it is crucially important that what we ask of them is both reasonable and feasible. Since I can see neither any technical feasibility nor global benefit to us setting a target of 120% reductions by 2050 for Scotland, and since the 80% target appears to have been endorsed by the Stop Climate Chaos Scotland coalition of environmental groups, I'm a little unclear where this suggestion has come from, or what it is hoped to achieve.
Cheers,
John
(1) http://www.airquality.co.uk/archive/reports/cat07/0809291432_DA_GHGI_rep...
(2) http://www.edinburgh.ceh.ac.uk/ukcarbon/docs/2008/Defra_Report_2008.pdf
Personally speaking, Prof McGlade was more interesting than Lord Turner, but that's perhaps because I'd read through his slides before, and so didn't gleam any new information. Lord Turner seemed to show that goals were ambitious but still achievable and well within the financial bubble that wouldn't break the back of GDP. But he did quote Robert F Kennedy and his comment on GDP.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_famous_Robert_F_Kennedy_quote_abou...
Prof McGlade struck a more powerful presentation with stark realities on EU countries that 'could do better' and also some actual measurements on GHG's compared to IPCC's original forecasts. It wasn't comfortable. She did focus on an ability to make massive improvements on Methane, and that sounded promising, but the other side of the coin was the realisation that China already has a gobal footprint per capita of twice our 2050 goal of 2.0-2.6 Tonnes CO2e. So things could get ugly before they get better.
Both speakers focused on the need to lower emissions by 80% by 2050 and to stay focused. They complimented Scotland's plans for the Climate Change Bill, and even suggested that we should look for innovative ways to get all homes fully insulated, which I think Patrick Harvie took well !...
Like all Climate Films and Talks I came away with mixed emotions. Confidence we were doing the right thing and that improvements could be gained but also some dispare over the ever growing problem, as we learn more, measure more and realise more about our global consumerist lifestyles.
Bottom line. Neither talked about Population control, which is the single biggest underlying - and controllable factor we may have to face.
All comments above are my own and not of LCC.
This week the parliament will hear from
Richard Dixon, Director, WWF Scotland;
Duncan McLaren, Chief Executive, Friends of the Earth Scotland;
Dave Watson, Scottish Organiser, UNISON;
and then from—
Chris Hegarty, Advocacy Manager, SCIAF;
Gavin McLellan, Head of Christian Aid Scotland, Christian Aid Scotland;
Judith Robertson, Head of Oxfam in Scotland, Oxfam.
2 pm, Tuesday 3 Feb http://www.holyrood.tv/
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3/committees/ticc/index.htm
The Rural Affairs and Environment Committee Will also be taking evidence on the Waste provisions in the Bill on Wednesday at 10 am
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3/committees/rae/index.htm
Hello, though I could add a few things.
It's worth pointing out that the Bill requires emissions in 2010 to be lower than 2009, and then lower again in every subsequent year, so reductions will be in statute from next year. The targets for every year between 2010 and 2022 must be set by June next year, and will be set in five year batches after that.
Other considerations are that under the UK Climate Change Act, the UK (including Scotland) must reduce its emissions to at least 34% below 1990 levels by 2020, and possibly by 42% if a strong global agreement is reached. Scotland's targets for this period will be set in line with this UK trend - otherwise we wouldn't be pulling our fair share in the UK. http://www.theccc.org.uk/carbon-budgets/
The other thing to bear in mind is that roughly half of greenhouse emissions from Scotland are included in the EU Emissions Trading Scheme. We know that at present these are going to reach 21% below 2005 levels in 2020 (which I calculate to be roughly 27% below 1990 levels). This is a decrease of 1.74% per year from 2012 onwards (until at least 2025). If there is a global deal, and the EU moves from a 1990minus20% target for 2020 to 1990 minus 30% then the effort in the traded sector will increase.
Aviation will be included in the EU ETS from 2012. Between 2013 and 2020, emissions from all aviation into, out of, and within Europe will be capped at 95% of 2005 levels - so the unregulated growth of avaition emissions in Scotland and Europe as a whole is effectively over.